tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13851370.post8317317806675823994..comments2023-09-28T10:51:30.990-05:00Comments on The Medium is the Message: A Blog Citation Index?Eric Schnellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15061075072474927902noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13851370.post-68512537992848583232008-03-14T07:48:00.000-05:002008-03-14T07:48:00.000-05:00WebCite (http://www.webcitation.org) has implement...<B>WebCite (http://www.webcitation.org)</B> has implemented an internal ranking of most cited webmaterial called WebCite Index. <BR/>Citations are harvested both from published research papers and from citing authors taking snapshots ("WebCiting") material.<BR/><BR/>WebCite archives stable snapshots of any URL at the time when it is cited (if the citing author initiated it) or at least when the paper is published. The snapshot will be permanently preserved in various Internet archives and libraries (WebCite is a member of the International Internet Preservation Consortium). The citation format a lot of journals are now using / recommending is something like the following:<BR/><BR/><BR/>Adam. How to Better Cite Blogs. Emergent Chaos - The Emergent Chaos Jazz Combo of the Blogosphere (Blog). URL:http://www.emergentchaos.com/archives/2007/10/how_to_better_cite_blogs.html. Accessed: 2008-03-14. (Archived by WebCite® at <A HREF="http://www.webcitation.org/5WJRbnuHA)" REL="nofollow">http://www.webcitation.org/5WJRbnuHA )</A><BR/><BR/>This ensures that the readers sees exactly the same content as the citing author (even if the content changes).<BR/><BR/>Some bloggers - who feel it is important to be cited properly - also put a "WebCite this!" on their blog (link to www.webcitation.org/archive - prepopulating this form with stable metadata such as the author name and blog title) so that the blog is accurately cited and automatically archived if somebody cites it. This also goes a long way if the blogger has to proof - for some reason - the sequence/priority of ideas, data, stories etc. - esp. important in academia. See http://gunther-eysenbach.blogspot.com/ for an example.Gunther Eysenbach MD MPHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03418681005679727986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13851370.post-55500207005280767932007-11-20T13:37:00.000-05:002007-11-20T13:37:00.000-05:00Several issues need to be solved before a really u...Several issues need to be solved before a really useful blog citation index comes about. <BR/><BR/>Blog citations from within journal articles as well as interblog links need to be counted, there needs to be some way to handle link rot, probably by publisher archiving of cited content as supplementary material, and we need a useable standard way to indicate that a post is about a scientific paper, including metadata about the papers discussed. Alf Eaton has some <A HREF="http://hublog.hubmed.org/archives/001551.html" REL="nofollow">good thoughts on this</A>. There's been some <A HREF="http://synthesis.williamgunn.org/2007/11/16/citing-journal-articles-in-blog-posts-and-blog-posts-in-journal-articles/" REL="nofollow">discussion about using a third-party archiving service for this</A>, which could make it easier for authors as they were doing research, but the central point of failure is a serious issue, I believe.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://Postgenomic.com" REL="nofollow">Postgenomic</A> is an attempt at a technorati-style aggregation of science blogs and includes a section for blog posts about scientific papers.<BR/><BR/>The way Postgenomic handles citation data is to scrape it from the target of the link, so you add rev="review" to your link and the aggregator handles the citation data scraping on its end.<BR/><BR/>I think it's a good idea to keep some metadata in the post itself(so there's no central point of failure nor service lock-in), and COinS seems like a good way to do this.<BR/><BR/>There's a <A HREF="http://generator.ocoins.info" REL="nofollow">generator</A> (which you probably know about) which will populate the tag if you give it a DOI or PMID, so you don't have to type out the journal/page/etc.<BR/><BR/>I'm glad you're working with the bpr3 people, and I hope something really useful comes of it, but as I have expressed to Dave many times, I think the final service would end up being better for end users if Postgenomic and bpr3 were to work together. I know they were <A HREF="http://pbeltrao.blogspot.com/2007/11/what-i-dont-like-about-bpr3.html" REL="nofollow">talking</A>, but I haven't heard if anything has come of it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com